How Long

a year ago ep. 475 feat. The National 01:21:21

The National is an American band whose new album, First Two Pages Of Frankenstein, is out soon. We spoke with Matt, their singer, from his home in Los Angeles about TJ's big night out in Brooklyn, Hi Chews and Red Vines, Matt comes out as a cat guy, mushroom exploration, The National is still waiting to play the Saudi Prince's bday party, which members of his band don't wear shoes, taking lessons on how to be an aging rocker from Morrissey and Nick Cave, that one time they played a show in Las Vegas while the AVN awards were happening, lo-fi beats to pole dance to, what he listens to when he smokes weed and rides his bike around Venice, we figure out where he's going to live next, TJ pitches a video concept for their new single, writing a breakup song with your wife whom you're currently happily married to, and some writer's blocks are bigger than others.


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About us

How Long Gone is a bi-coastal elite podcast from old friends and podcast professionals, Chris Black and Jason Stewart. CB and TJ deliver their takes on pop culture, fashion, music, and more.

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Tour Dates

06/19/24 Chicago, IL, Bottom Lounge
06/20/24 Toronto, ON, Great Hall
06/26/24 Atlanta, GA, Terminal West
06/27/24 Washington, DC, The Atlantis
06/28/24 Philadelphia, PA, Johnny Brenda’s
07/01/24 St Paul, MN, Turf Club


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